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Words cannot express how wrong I feel that the world is at the minute..

I quote Israeli Army Radio:

"All those now in south Lebanon are terrorists who are related in some way to Hezbollah"

That's right folks, if you didn't evacuate, you're a terrorist. First we had the whole "If you're not with us, you're with the terrorists" - this basically meant that if you don't agree with somebody, you are the enemy. Now it's become "if you don't do as we say, you're the enemy".

So if Israel tells you to do something, and you do not, then you are a terrorist. I've got a few things I'd like to tell Israel to do, personally..

More than that, the Germans have put their finger on exactly what's wrong. Unfortunately, they've done it by being completely stupid, but hey, well done for identifying the problem anyway.. I quote:

"No German soldier should, even theoretically, be brought into a situation where he has to aim his weapon at an Israeli"

"There are Holocaust survivors living in Israel. I don't think they would feel good about German soldiers in South Lebanon, and certainly not if they had to take a stand against an Israeli soldier"

But here is the absolute best quote.. the one that really sums it up:

"The opinion editor of Berlin's Der Tagesspiegel newspaper, Malte Lehming, agrees that this scenario would violate the main lesson of the last century: "Never again.""

You are idiots.

That "never again" lesson was not "never again will we do anything bad to Jews". Because that's a stupid lesson, that gives the state of Israel a license to do as they please knowing that they can act with impunity.

"Never Again" means that never again will people permit the extermination of a people, atrocities committed on a wide scale, and sit back and fail to act. That was the true crime of the holocaust - not that it happened, but that it was allowed to happen. The inaction of the German people, the inaction of the Allies in the build-up, that was the lesson that needed to be learned. And it hasn't been.

The lesson of the holocaust was not that the Jews can never be the bad guys. It's that the bad guys need to be stopped. And we obviously haven't learned that lesson.

We have Israel's "Justice" (ha!) Minister explaining that in order to safeguard the lives of the Israeli military, villages should be flattened before ground troops move in. That means the indiscriminate destruction of residential areas before a ground-level evaluation of the area. Civilians? Won't know until afterwards, but it's okay, because remember - if they're there, they must be terrorists. Never mind that half a million people have been displaced from their homes and have nowhere else to go - if they don't get out of there, they're terrorists. And need to be flattened.

In general, the whole thing feels like when I used to fight with my brother, in which I play the role of Israel.. I'd taunt him with my rhetoric, and obviously superior strength. He'd eventually retaliate with violence, at which point I would use it as an excuse to batter him. Eventually, a parent would tell me off, knowing that ultimately I started it, and even though he hit me first, I'm older and should rise above it. It's exactly the same here - a militant group kills some Israeli civilians, so Israel kills some Lebanese civilians (as well as some UN observers who, being in south Lebanon, must have been terrorists). The difference is, one is a terrorist organisation with stated terrorist aims. The other is meant to be a sovereign state, that should know better than to sink to that level. But they don't, and nobody will tell them not to - there is no parent to tell them to grow up and act responsibly.

At what point did the world write Israel a big blank cheque, giving them permission to do as they please, knowing that because of the holocaust, we can't really stop them. If you disagree with the actions of Israel, you're a terrorist, and anti-semitic. You will be flattened.

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Your views are so similar to mine, could we be related?

ok so I'll admit I'm not all that au fait with the history of middle eastern politics, so correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't these problems essentially start when after the war a large section of the middle east was handed to the jews to give them somewhere to be safe or whatever? Then others got narked about the fact.

If that's right I can't help but be confused as to why. And surely taking half of Palestine and saying to the arabs nope, you can't have it any more was never going to be anything but problematic?


according to the definition of terrorism is:
The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.
given that israel has broken more than one international law with the use of violence by their army against people and property with the intention of intimidating/coercing the lebanese people for political reasons, would it not be logical to say that they are terrorists too?

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