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Nobody expects the... homosexual agenda! (tinha)
It's 1 o'clock in the morning and 27-year-old Lybe Crumpton is standing alone, shaking and on the verge of tears. No, she hasn't been robbed. She's a fifth-grade teacher who's afraid her students might be harmed by the homosexual agenda.

It's like the news, but for insane people!

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"Our backs are against the wall," said Matthew Freschi, a physical education teacher at Hayward High School.

Lord. Gay activists are taking this shit way too far.

I don't think the extreme-right press is really the best judge of such things, and that certainly wasn't the point I was trying to make.

Being gay myself, I think that my opinion of the situation is valid. Sure, protect homosexuals from having the shit beat out of them. But we don't need little children being taught to love and respect us. Because it's never gonna happe. And it doesn't need to happen.

What's wrong with teaching kids that it's okay to have two parents of the same gender? It would certainly help those children whose parents are gay - being taught that your lifestyle is acceptable is always a nice reassurance.

Because teaching opinions shouldn't be up to the school system. Opinions like that should be left up to the parents to teach to their children. Suppose a childs parents are extremely against homosexuality. Their child/ren watch/es this video, and is taught that homosexuality is okay. All the other kids at school are taught this, as well. When the child/ren goes home, he tells his parents about this. 2 things can happen. Either the child fights with his parents, or changs his opinion, and goes back to shool to fight with the kids.

You can't force change.

Nobody is talking about forcing change. But encouraging change, that can be a good thing. Encouraging kids to think about things and perhaps make their own minds up rather than mindlessly inheriting all their opinions from their parents, that'd be nice.

As far as I can see, there's absolutely no harm in teaching tolerance of other lifestyles. If the kid's parents are teaching them that other lifestyles are wrong, surely it's important at some point to introduce to the kid the idea that that's not the only school of thought....

Let it be introduced to the kid when he's on his own, and able to support himself. At the age they are introducing these views, the children are fully dependent on the parents, and it is the parents right to teach their children whatever it is they wish.

Okay, so a 10 year old kid gets taught by his parents that homosexuality is wrong. He goes into school and gives another kid hell because the other kid is being brought up in a home with two (gay) fathers.

What exactly do you do about that? Teach the kid to be tolerant? Tell him not to express opinions any more? Complain to his parents (who will probably not care because the kid is doing as they would do)? Or just ignore it?

The school should punish the child for harassment. Teach the child that harassment, of anyone or anything, is not acceptable.

And what if that goes against what the child's parents think?

Surely it would be better for all concerned if the child was taught in such a way that they didn't feel the need to harass anybody.

Fine. Teach them that harassment isn't acceptable. But there's no need to teach them specifically that harassment of homosexuals isn't acceptable. By singling them out, they could be doing just as much harm as leaving them unaware.

Let's run over this again, first replacing "homosexuals" with "Christians", then "Muslims".

Unsafe at Any Grade: Christian activists are exploiting their agenda through "freedom of religion" laws across the nation -- and Kuwait is their latest laboratory.
Mar 15, 2003

AS-SUBAYHIYA, Kuwait (BP)--It's 1 o'clock in the morning and 27-year-old Lybe Crumpton is standing alone, shaking and on the verge of tears. No, she hasn't been robbed. She's a fifth-grade teacher who's afraid her students might be harmed by the Christian agenda.

With large brown eyes and a vieled face, she has just watched her school board approve the idea that classrooms like hers play a video called That's Our God!, featuring 9- and 10-year-old children lauding the benefits of living with faith in Jesus Christ.

Jesus died on the cross for all our sins . . . that means He is our Lord and saviour," says one smiling girl in the video. "It's sort of like how a mom and a dad love each other, just that it is a love for all mankind."

But that's not the worst of it. The video -- which also portrays children of Baptist, Adventist and even Jewish parents -- comes with a teachers' handbook including a crossword puzzle for elementary kids using words like "transubstantiation" and discussion questions such as, "What did you learn from this video about families who worship our Lord? What else would you like to know?"

It was five hours ago that Crumpton slipped unnoticed into the back of the Kuwait City school board meeting and heard Christian activists warning the board it had better allow "tolerance" lessons like this video -- or risk lawsuits.

That upsets Crumpton because she doesn't think elementary-school kids are ready to discuss abstracts of metaphysics and epistemology, especially ones as physically and spiritually devastating as Christianity.

"They're not worried about the nature of the soul, and what may exist outside our physical plane of existance," she says. "They worry about who's the best at soccer."

I think that, in public education systems, that is just as wrong as discussing homosexuality.
Save religion for private schools.

It is my opinion that public schools should only teach what is fact, and stay away from anything that is opinion.

Well, that's internally self-consistent. I'd have to agree on both counts - I don't believe religion or sexuality should be taught in schools.

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