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"In 86, Argentina had the hand of God. This year, we've got his foot", apparently
2012
unknownj
What sort of time do you call this?

Oh, right, morning... This is what revision does to you - I have to be up and doing stuff at a "reasonable hour"... Which basically means, reading through my Prolog notes. At some point I may go into Uni to get hold of the past exam papers on Logic Programming, just to see what sort of things I'm expected to know - it would be easier than reading the whole of my textbook on it, certainly.

And at some point today, I really ought to go shopping - I have no bread, very little marmite, no cheese slices, no pepperoni... That pretty much means I can't make any of my favourite foods (actually, it only takes an absence of bread for that), which in turn means I'll not get to eat much. But I have like 13 hours before I actually need to go to the shop, so that's okay.

I rather pity anybody who didn't watch Big Brother last night - it had such a classic TV moment, when Alex was doing his nominations. Roughly paraphrased,
The first person I want to nominate is Jonny, because he openly admits that he pee'd in the shower, and that's disgusting. The second person I want to nominate is Alison, because she also admits that she pee'd in the shower, and I think it's disgusting
It was classic... He's talking to people about how Jonny's friends and girlfriend are inevitably going to judge him for peeing in the shower, because it's disgusting, and nobody does it. Right... That kid is gonna get some surprises when he comes out of the house and finds out just how wrong he is... Oh, and Spencer's nominations were excellent - when he's animated, he's really cool... It's just a shame that usually, he doesn't do much...
I'd like to nominate Alison, just because out of everyone here, she's annoyed me a bit. It's not something I'd even bring up if it weren't for nominations... Oh, and she's got a double bed. And I want it.
Well, it kept me entertained anyway...

The Tunisian national side are really poor at passing. That's all I have to say on the subject of the World Cup right now.

I should really think about getting dressed and going shopping now. And since LiveJournal is down for maintenance, I think I'll do that now...

*wanders off*

Right, I'm back, and I bought lots of "essentials" (read: frozen pizza, bread, cheese, marmite, pepperoni)... All went fine... While out, I had a realisation - the other week, I was talking about how in Attack of the Clones, we learn that the Stormtroopers in Star Wars are actually genetically identical to Boba Fett, and how amusing that is - the stormtroopers are the same as the guy who was killed by blind Han Solo with a stick, hardly a ringing endorsement of their abilities. But then I remembered - the Storm Troopers were never that great in the first place, they got their asses kicked by a bunch of f'ing teddy bears on Endor...

The things that cross my mind......

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Being a cotton-pickin Yank, I've noooo idea what is this 'marmite' to which you refer and my curiosity is piqued.

I've previously heard of it, yet had never come into contact with anyone that had chosen to partake...

...would you mind enlightening me?

xoxoxo
Athena

It describes itself as "Yeast Extract", and is typically spread on toast, or used as an ingredient in sauces... One of their major selling points is "You either love it or you hate it" - some people think it tastes absolutely divine (I happen to think this), others think it's foul.

In my opinion, it goes best when mixed with peanut butter in a toasted sandwich - the two tastes combine to make a taste that's very much different to either of them, and it's great :o)

hahahaha!

Note to self:
- Apply to marketing department at Marmite, BestFoods Company.

Hm, peanut butter that doesn't taste like peanut butter... I think this calls for some hands on research.

thankyouthankyou.


The Australian Big Brother is such a Nazi. He gets really harsh on the housemates if he doesnt like their reasons for nominations.

Yeah, ours too now... It's apparently to fuel the differences between people, by forcing them to consider what they don't like about each other. Which is fair enough, I guess - it beats the people who say "I think he misses his pet beetle" and stuff... :o)

I guess I must be in the minority as well cos I find the thought of someone peeing in the shower pretty awful!

Interesting... In our flat, 1/5 people (one out of five, rather than a fifth) said it was really bad, and 4/5 people said that they might or might not have, and that they weren't going to say while the first person was still present ;o)

Wow - now if we extrapolate that to the 60 odd million in England we have a result! ;0)

Mercifully, the people I live with are in no way representative of the rest of the nation, and cannot be extrapolated no matter how hard you try ;o)

BTW, I don't think that it's necessarily a minority who thinks it's bad - but it's a good deal more accepted than the guy thinks...

EEK! I don't think I want to know (or ever have a shower at your house)! :0)

As you wish, but if you want to pee at our house, apparently that's okay ;o)

Hahahahaha I would be spoilt for choice!

Yes, although my room is strictly off-limits

Yeah thats reserved for number twosies surely! :0P

i don't think the stormtroopers circa-a new hope are clones... my main reasons for thinking this is that there was no reason to believe they were clones prior to attack of the clones, and in all the star wars offshoot stuff when the 'troopers are characters and not cannon fodder they're just people, trained up and all that.

besides, boba never asked vader how his brothers were...

anyway, i'm not even remotely an expert on star wars, so i'm just gonna stop arguing anyway... it's the most retarded scifi around (but it's so much fun! richie has a lightsabre!). hehe...

i don't think the stormtroopers circa-a new hope are clones... my main reasons for thinking this is that there was no reason to believe they were clones prior to attack of the clones, and in all the star wars offshoot stuff when the 'troopers are characters and not cannon fodder they're just people, trained up and all that.

I think they are, to be honest. The similarities are there, they're deliberate, and when you look at it, the clones are in actual fact fighting on the side of the emperor - I have every confidence that Storm Troopers will be revealed to be second-generation clones (although without the kiwi accents)...

besides, boba never asked vader how his brothers were...

Boba doesn't know, simple as that.

it's the most retarded scifi around

But yet the best ;o)

I hate to sound like the geek I am, but I can tell you for a fact that storm troopers are *not* clones. This is really based upon the knowledge of my friend who is an absolute Star Wars addict, but apparently the only requirements for being a storm trooper is that you are over six foot tall, and Hans Solo says at one point, I think, that he applied to be one but he was too short, or something.

Not in the movies he doesn't. Trust me, I know the movies perfectly. You can argue that it's said in the books, but then, the books also say that Clones cannot exist without Ysalimariwhatnots around them, and that Boba Fett was exiled from his people blah blah got his armour from blah blah...

The books are all unofficial speculation, the only things that are truly accurate are the movies, and there's not yet anything in the movies which says Storm Troopers aren't clones.

Not in the movies he doesn't. Trust me, I know the movies perfectly. You can argue that it's said in the books, but then, the books also say that Clones cannot exist without Ysalimariwhatnots around them

actually, it doesn't. it says the only way to rapidly grow clones is with Ysalimiri, because they block out the Force, otherwise the Clones minds twist due to the Force (like with Joruus C'bath).

However, the contradictions to the movie can be sorted by this - the cloning facilities in the Thrawn trilogy are located in a former Imperial base, in Mount Tantiss on the planet Wayland. the Clones in the movie were being grown as a business thing by an alien planet.

Therefore, its likely the Mount Tantiss cloning technology is an actual Imperial development, and would therefore be much less advanced, and since only the Jedi were aware of the location of the cloning business people, its concievable they could've hidden it from the Emperor.

The books are all unofficial speculation, the only things that are truly accurate are the movies, and there's not yet anything in the movies which says Storm Troopers aren't clones.

there's also nothing that says they are ;) and, think, Luke mentions joining the "Academy" in episode IV :)

There were positions for imperial officers - that might be what the academy is for. However, George Lucas went to great lengths to emphasise how like storm troopers the clones are - I personally think that therefore, they are going to turn out to be one and the same...

ah, that's just the uniform - it could've just been adopted by the Emperor simply to inspire terror in people - the Clone Wars are always mentioned in hushed tones, as if they were a time of great terror. Anything resembling the main forces during this time would be a great psychological tool for maintaining order in the Galaxy..

Not as such, since as far as the people of the Republic are concerned, the clones fought on their behalf, and won against the evil of the trade federation. I wouldn't necessarily be scared of people wearing the same uniform as, say, the allied soldiers in the second world war - I'd look upon them as people to trust and respect, and we know Storm Troopers are there to cause fear etc.

ah, but you don't know how the Clone Wars turn out. it could all extent into the Emperor seizing total power in military as well as political fact. it could all become totally clear how evil the Emperor is and the entire republic breaks out into revolt and he uses the clones to terrorise them back into line ;)

Fair enough, that is sort of how it's inevitably going to go... I just think that the clones that terrorise them back into line are the same as the Storm Troopers :o)

See, I'm a geek too ;o)

No, hold on - I'm sure there's a line in Episode 4 where Hans says that either him or his Dad used to be/applied to be a Storm Trooper. And if they are clones, then that *really* sucks - why didn't they get hundreds of extras dressed up as clones for episode 2 (ala episodes 4-6) instead of using stupid looking CGI models??

Nope, not to my recollection, and I have pretty good memory for things like that..

Anyhow, the idea was to illustrate very clearly that they were clones in Episode 2...

I still maintain that you're wrong, and I trust my memory more than I trust yours (rightly or wrongly...). Blah

Then I suggest you watch Episode Four, and when you're ready to apologise, I'll be waiting ;o)

Fine then, I will... Just give me about a month to get back to my special edition VHS box set :-)

Okay, I'm going to concede the Han Solo thing to you, but I'm still 99.9% sure that the storm troopers are not clones.

They may not be, but it's certainly looking like that's what George Lucas is trying to imply at this point...

I think they are, to be honest. The similarities are there, they're deliberate, and when you look at it, the clones are in actual fact fighting on the side of the emperor - I have every confidence that Storm Troopers will be revealed to be second-generation clones (although without the kiwi accents)...

Hmm. Personally, I don't think they are. I daresay that when the Jedi were on the run from the Emperor and Vader they would've scrubbed a lot of information from official banks including any mention of the cloning planet.

and, yes, they're a lame army ;) i think they're more there to inspire terror and order in an existing nation than fight others - weapons of terror rather than weapons of war.

But the Emperor knows where the clones were made - Boba Fett was "recruited by a man named Tyranus", i.e., Count Dooku. The clones were the emperor's idea, he engineered the entire political situation to gain more power. Therefore, he knows exactly who makes the clones :o)

BTW, officially, there is no mention of the cloners' planet, it was already erased by Dooku.

oh, and Babylon 5 is by far the best scifi universe ;)

i barely even consider Star Wars scifi. its more futuristic fantasy. think about it, the heroic knight has to rescue the princess from the huge castle ;) he even has his band of followers and an enemy ;)

I think they are, to be honest. The similarities are there, they're deliberate, and when you look at it, the clones are in actual fact fighting on the side of the emperor - I have every confidence that Storm Troopers will be revealed to be second-generation clones (although without the kiwi accents)...

you're probably right, in that this will be "revealed" in the next film... there's not been any evidence of this previously, and there has been contrary evidence in previous star wars stuff, but george lucas is not exactly a big fan of continuity, and if it suits him to make them clones they will be. heh.

Boba doesn't know, simple as that.

that was a joke...

But yet the best ;o)

ooh, don't get me started, you bad, bad boy... ;P

i agree with arthur c. clarke - it's a very enjoyable fantasy.

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