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2012
unknownj
"But Ariel Sharon has once again reiterated that he does not believe a peace agreement can be made with Yasser Arafat"

See, apparently, Yasser Arafat is an evil, warmongering bastard, who oversees terrorist operations against his enemies which are sanctioned by his state, and is therefore not eligible for peace.

As opposed to Ariel Sharon, who is in no way an evil, warmongering bastard, who does not oversee terrorist operations against his enemies, and if he did, they would not be sanctioned by the state. In other news, Ariel Sharon was also not involved in the invasion of the Lebanon, nor is he a genocidal fuck who will not get what is coming to him when he's inevitably not tried for warcrimes he obviously didn't commit.

I just thought I'd clear that up - facts and the truth can sometimes cloud peoples' judgement, and I felt that lies and propaganda would be relevant at this point in time.

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ariel sharon is doing a fine job of putting the jewish people back to 1938. cuz sadly people dont make a distinction between the jewish people and the state of israel. i can sense the hatred in people being stirred. but what can i say? quite frankly i dont give a fuck anymore.

it strikes me as odd that adolf hitler is the cause of the state israel (no way would the un have given the jewish people the state of israel without the holocaust), and ariel sharon even more ironically is probably the cause of the end of the state of israel. both working against their own goals. weird.

I know what you mean - I know a lot of people who, when they read the papers, talk about what the Jews are doing, as opposed to the Israelis, and more specifically and fairly, the Israeli government (albeit with the support of the people). Eventually, if this continues, people are going to be seriously pissed off at every Jew they can find, which is really really not where we want to be.......

like i said its 1938 all over again. 64 years come/go and were back to scratch.....

I can see it all happening right now. Three weeks from now, it will be revealed that the Israelis slaughtered thousands of Palestinians on the quiet. Then a few weeks after that, a UN resolution will be passed that requires Jews to leave Israel because they can't play nice. Then a few weeks after that, when they've nowhere to go, a special body will build "refugee" camps for them. Shortly after, when those camps get full, gas chambers will be installed to control the population and... oh look.... right back to World War 2 again....

Well, maybe not quite like that. But it's not beyond plausibility, sadly....

Note: I don't think for one second that the idea of a second holocaust is funny, or favourable. I'm just pointing out how easily the tide of opinion could change....

See, apparently, Yasser Arafat is an evil, warmongering bastard,

Whaddya mean apparently?

"The Palestine Liberation Organization is undoubtedly one of the best known terrorist organizations in the world. Accordingly, the organization is led by perhaps the best known individual in the modern history of international terrorism; Yasser Arafat."

In much the same vein as Martin Mcguinness(sp?) of the IRA - Yasser Arafat has attempted to distance himself from the liberation movement by becoming a politician, yet he always was, and always will be, leader of a terrorist faction. He is directly responsible for the loss of countless innocent lives. Sharon, however, is a true politician and the case for considering him directly responsible for the loss of Arab life (innocent or otherwise) is less clear cut.

That point accross I'll not defend Israel or Sharon's actions, both sides seem equally barbaric at this moment in time.

Errr... TMA - you *do* know that before becoming a politician, Ariel Sharon was the commander of special commando forces unit 101, which just coincidentally was involved in the massacre of women and children in the West Bank? The United States had to personally apologise for Israel's actions on that one. He was also Minister Of Defense when they invaded Lebanon....

The man is an absolute nutcase, Israel would be much better off without him.

... Ariel Sharon was the commander of special commando forces unit 101, which just coincidentally was involved in the massacre of women and children in the West Bank

No, I didn't know that.

The man is an absolute nutcase, Israel would be much better off without him.

I'd have agreed with that before.

My point wasn't that Yasser Arafat wasn't like that - he is. The "apparently" in there was more along the lines of an "as it turns out", rather than "allegedly". My point is that Ariel Sharon is no better, if not worse. As for him being a "true politician", bullshit, he is not - he's a war criminal just like the others, and they are all accountable.

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