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2012
unknownj
Dear Family of Kenneth Bigley,

I'm sorry that his has happened to you, I kinda feel bad and all, but for the love of all that is holy, would you shut the fuck up? So your son/brother etc. was taken hostage, shit happens, especially if you're working in Iraq. If it happened to somebody I love, I'd probably be pissed off too, and probably think all the things you're thinking.

The difference is, I wouldn't come out and say them in the media, and make myself look like an utter tosser.

"Ooh, ooh, Tony Blair isn't doing enough, he should free those prisoners, he should pull the troops out of Iraq, why won't he help Ken get home to his mum?????"

In reverse order - the number of times they refer to the guy's mother is no more than a publicity stunt intended to make the British public feel bad for him and his mummy, in some sort of attempt to get us to pressure the government. Certainly, the people holding him beheaded two Americans, I doubt that pleas for this guy to go home to mummy are going to affect their consciences.

Troops out of Iraq is a stupid idea. Who on earth thinks it's smart to go into a country, dismantle their government, disband their police, and then pull your troops out? Despite being opposed to the war the whole time, I think that the important thing is how we go forward from here, and how best to act responsibly. That means keeping the troops there until the country is sorted out.

Freeing the prisoners - yeah, that's good.. let's save your family member, only to endanger every foreign national currently in Iraq.. If you give in to terrorists, it sends a pretty clear message that terrorism is a way of getting what you want, and that's not a message we want to give to the people with the guns and the balaclavas..

In short, most of what the Bigley family have come out with is, frankly, shit. Like I said, I'd probably be thinking the same thing, but I wouldn't blurt it all out in the papers, and make myself look like a twat. The blatant attempts to arouse public sympathy so that we might convince Tony Blair to just give the terrorists what they want is a pretty low blow.

If it was my choice between him dying, and the terrorists getting what they want and going on believing that this is a viable strategy, then I'd already be on the phone ordering the flowers.

Insensitively yours,
Jamie
xxxxx

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Interesting post. Seems to me that as long as there's a media to feed the family's need to vent, they'll keep on venting.

I'm not sure any of it has actually aroused any more public sympathy than they had originally. Plus they don't seem to be acknowledging the fact that the Government probably are trying to pull all sorts of strings behind closed doors to get him free (that's what they do, isn't it? Tow the 'we don't negotiate with terrorists' line publicly, but do whatever they can secretly, just like the Italians did).

Anyway just wanted to acknowledge that I think you made some valid points there. Cheers.

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well, use your head...

While you still have it!

all i have to say on the matter is that if you were in that situation, or someone you loved a great deal, you probably wouldn't be as blase about it. which is obviously much easier when you're not in that position yourself.
sorry.
i'm not of the opinion we should pander to the whims of terrorists, but your post seems incredibly insensitive under the circumstances.

Um..
If it happened to somebody I love, I'd probably be pissed off too, and probably think all the things you're thinking.

The difference is, I wouldn't come out and say them in the media, and make myself look like an utter tosser.
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Like I said, I'd probably be thinking the same thing, but I wouldn't blurt it all out in the papers, and make myself look like a twat. The blatant attempts to arouse public sympathy so that we might convince Tony Blair to just give the terrorists what they want is a pretty low blow.
I like to think that I'm of sufficient character that even something like this happening wouldn't completely blind me to the reality of the situation (which is that you don't give in to terrorists).

The family seems to be using the media circus as an excuse to blame Tony Blair for the fact that he's not doing enough, when in reality there's nothing else he can do. If only they had some perspective....

Haha, wow, I had planned to post almost the exact same thing a couple of days ago.

Tu madre es un coño

PS, I thought about it first, I thought about it many days ago!

I can't remember where I read it, but there was a quote from someone he has worked with, saying something along the lines of Bigley used to go outside the secure compound on his own, without the armed guard he was entitled to, and when it was mentioned to him about the rebels, and the threat of kidnapping, he was blase about it, saying if it happened to him it was obviously his time.

I should learn to punctuate...

Couldn't. Agree. More.

I actually have changed my mind. I'd have everyone pull out - there is no way any foreign occupation is going to work in Iraq, and five years down the road we'll still be in this mess. I think many there would rather have their own government than good government. And 'good' isn't what Puppet Allawi is in the first place.

I'd agree, if I saw any signs of an ability to function that way..

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